In this conversation, Peter Jukes and Hamish De Bretton-Gordon discuss the complex geopolitical landscape surrounding the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, particularly in light of Trump’s upcoming meeting with Putin in Alaska. They explore the implications of Putin’s visit, the escalation of drone attacks in Ukraine, and the challenges of negotiations led by Trump and his team. The discussion highlights the resilience of Ukraine amidst the conflict and the potential consequences of the diplomatic efforts being made.